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News and problems of Veterans of armed forces.Links to veteran service organizations, VFW,American Legion,AMVETS,VA, Those weekend holidays how they started, memorial day, ritual unit poem, Honor guard,50 cent beers,links to German units of wwwII,outside da tent

Greeting and Holiday Salutes to AL Posts 600, (Clearing Chicago IL) Post 277 Necedah WI, and 164 Cline- Pautsch- Kott, Boyton Beach FL

BUILDING POST MEMBERSHIP
SURVEY THEIR NEEDS
The word will get around your a good outfit to join

REBUILDING YOUR POST

Many posts and chapters of armed service non for profit organizations are suffering from dwindeling memberships and static organizations.

As a member and ex officer of local posts in both the American Legion, and the VFW (life member) I receive their national publications. What gets me is there is little direction offered by both in developing local organizations in those publications.

    Local membership has dropped so severely that its has gotten to the point where too many congressional members of a major political party have been issuing public statements about those in active service loaded with unsubtantiated charges of attrocities that have been eagerly picked up and repeated by enemys of this country. When I see respective department publications catering to these politicians with flattering revelations and pictues of these individuals I freaken wince.

    If they feel they must print something do it New York times style. 3 sentences max section 6B. Get it through your heads. These people are not friends of the military or of veterans

A DIGRESSION
BRING BACK THE ARMYS GOLDEN EAGLE
The flag of the United States Army up until the post Viet Nam era was a proud golden eagle on a red field. Todays flag of the United States Army is a insipid group of blue cartoon characterizations. A boat almost represnting a spanish galleon,an anitque cannon, and a bunch of arrows on a white field. If the Bush administration wants a legacy one of them should be the return of this symbol, the once proud golden eagle.

POST AND CHAPTER REBUILDING

Very likely your post or chapter has made many contributions to your local community...GET THAT STORY OUT..Let your local community know what you are doing don't hide under a bushel basket. If its a donation to a school ,church, or civic group. Take a picture of it. Send it out to your local newspaper along with a brief blurb . If you don't have a local newspaper put it into your bulletin, make extra copies and place them in local shops and eateries where free publications are offered.

If you have a post home blow that picture up and put it in a prominent spot for all to see (behind the bar) not on your bulletin board board where no one except a member may glance at.
   About Your Bulletin...its the most important piece of communication and getting your story out. Most printers today will copy pictures as well as print. If your post doesn't have a printer GET ONE.

DON'T THINK YOUR SAVING MONEY BY NOT ISSUING BULLETINS

    Here is an example of what happpens if you do. I belong to a very famous VFW post in the Chicaoland region. Unfortunately I moved out of state primarily to take care of a stroke ridden brother who has since passed away.

During that time beside close comrades passing away someone had the bright idea (because of rising postal costs) not to send out bulletins and for a year none were sent. Because of this meeting and participation in post activities were severly damaged. Attendance dropped and when a new regime took over they managed to send out a bulletin. Guess what was in that bulletin ? Complaints that there were few participants in the ritual unit and they may have to disband it.
    There is nothing to prevent you from getting ads to help defray the mailing and printing expences. Depending upon the size of your membership you may even consider getting a bulk mailing permit from USPS.
    Securing a bulk permit though if your membership is below 500, and many posts are in that situation, not practical. The US Mat will be offering posts in the Midway region of Chicago through its Midway Beacon Page, and posts in the Adams-Juneau counties area and Central Wisconsin Lakeshore Beacon Pages free bulletin reproduction and mailing once an ad program is established. In the meantime if you wish to defray your mailing costs through securing ads this is one way of doing it.

THE FOLLOWING SALUTE THE EFFORTS
OF POST (CHAPTER) 1234
List Names and address.

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Please support those who support us

IN ORDER TO GAIN MORE PARTICIPATION IN YOUR ORGANIZATION
here are some questions which should appear in any questionaire. Or if you wish you can reprint this questionaire

POST SURVEY

Comrade:
Please respond to this post survey and after filling it out save the post money by stuffing it into an envelope mailing it to us. Feel free in the space provided offer any suggestion of improvements you would like see us take. Your post (chapter) is working to serve you better and where possible add to your benefit being a member of this organization. Unfortunately we have had many cases where a member has passed on or became incapacitated and the post not notified by relatives or family members .Don't forget, one of our duties is to visit the sick and console the bereaved please let them know to notify us. We would also like to know if we can assist you in your needs. Or if you would be interested in participating in any activity.
Thank You Comander

Please print your name, membership #, most recent address, phone number including area code.
name)________________________(mbr#_________ (street address)______________tel ____/ _______zip_________

Do you live .. With wife ?(_____) With family (____) Alone (______) Would you like have a member (encircle which) either/ STOP BY /CALL/ or BOTH/ and see how your doing ? Am OK _____ Do you need help around the house ? Y____ N____ Your age____ & birthdate ___ ___ ___ Are you physically limited ?Y____ N____ Can you cut your toe nails ?____Y ____N (pedicurist) Are you going to the VA?___Y ___N Would you be willing to share a ride and bring a member to a post function (including trips to visit VA hospitals) ? If so how far out of your way (miles ____ )would you consider going?   Or would you like to be pickled up____ WE NEED MEMBERS FOR OUR WAKE CALLS LIST ARE YOU ON OUR LIST _________________NAME & phone #_______ac________________

WHICH ACTIVITY WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE US START OR IMPROVE

(1)FAMILY PICNIC ___   (2)JULY 4th ___  (3)CHRISTMAS PARTY ___  (4) LABOR DAY PIG ROAST ___ (5) MONTHLY FRIDAY FISH FRY ___ (6) ST JOE- ST PAT DAY PARTY___   (7) 12th NIGHT (Jan 6th) (SWING MUSIC DANCE BAND) BALL____  (8) ANNUAL FLEA MARKET DAZE____ &
YOUR SUGGESTION PLEASE
________________________________________________________
Now the most important question on any of the affairs would you be willing to devote your time and skills and help out ? # ___ ___ ___Which of the above# ___ ___ ___ Which ones (numbers)should be aimed at fund raising _____ ____ WHich should be for post members and their guests only ___ ____ ___
POST MEETINGS
National Hqs encourage getting speakers for meetings which few post or chapters consider doing. If we arranged to get speakers on the following subjects (check which)
On Legal advice (wills &last care)(1) ___ Home improvements (2) ___ Hunting (3)___ & Fishing (4)___ (5)Using a computer___ Other_____________________(print idea) Which number would you be interested in most ____ which least ___
Thank You please remember to send in your reply .

TOO MANY JOHNS AND NOT ENOUGH GEORGES

POST MEMBERSHIP PLEDGE CARD
To be posted.
While this writer trys to avoid cliches one that comes to mind when PCs complain about member participation is "Let George do it" I used this device to aid a failing post gain participation at their meetings and in their activities. In their zeal to build up membership many posts operating post homes (bars) fail to seek active members usually telling the prospective member (after meeting membership qualifications)"Oh you don't have to come to our meetings" Thus making them primarily bar patrons which do not participate in post activities. As a result few Georges and too many Johns. Attendence did shoot up unfortunately the bickering officers in charge did not understand its value and the post failed..
    The Pledge Card concept is simple. Post members voluntarily sign an annual pledge to that to the best of their ability they will participate in post activities. When using it posts will find there will be an increase in participation

POST MEMBERSHIP PLEDGE CARD
As a member in good standing with (Post) (Chapter) #____________
I______________________ pledge
That I will make every attempt to the best of my ability,
and circumstances permitting
participate in at least two organized post activities for the year of 200__

> Ah ! Remember those 4ths ?

"On Chicago's Streets N All over Town From Hillock to Harlem
From the Quarrys of Bridgeport to the Ridges of Garfield
    and all the little towns between That make the urban scene
On Our Block and on our Street

print me AmericanaSeries L.J.Keslin 2002 (poem)
         
Quiet Fourths
we never knew for after setting out the flag  
houses vied each other shooting all we had.
Tween each block contests ran and reported back the spies.
For small eyes glisten when sparklers light 
and crowds applause the prize
So under lock in a special spot specials awaited skies
Rockets,fountains,roman candles too,
carefully attended by a chosen one
So accidents were few.
Who started with the sparklers
and great big ones too
Then followed by a star shell, oh one and maybe two
and when the night was brighted up always drew an ahh!
Or a great big Oooh
Next a fountain of silver, then a pot that shot out flowers
or those roman candles set in a can of sand
for fireworks are never held in any size of hand
and caution was the watchword respect was fully driven
but when these rules were all observed Deserved applause was given

Poem excerpted from Sept 39,1st Book of Moses 2003 L.J.Keslin all rights reserved.Dedicated to Bill and Glenda Gore of Hattisburg MS, and Central MO fireworks, who's knowledge of class C fireworks have given pleasure to thousands.

 The. HONORS.TEAM  VETERANS  PAGES
        Passing  The  Baton
 THE  US  MAT  

They proudly stood  on guard aside the casket
Who once called upon was the one who gave
One may have been a hero
Or one who simply served
Giving of what one could to country
of youth and vigor be it not betrayed.
Who now stands to show this valor
doing duty without shame ?
Who visits those alone sick and old
or cares or shops for one ?
Who reminds those of the giving
the comrade gave?
Who consoles the grieving of  those 
one left behind ?
Its but a few who may have known the one,
and the many  that did not.
But they have come to show us all
They have not forgot.
They are the Honor Guard
or if you please The Ritual Team
A veteran's group you see.
Making sure arms and standard are presented.
That colors  are proudly shown,that Taps are played
Veterans speaking with their actions Their presence thus exclaims
Their baton passing on to others who here remain

2002 Lee J KeslinThe First Book of Moses, A Bridgeport Ode all rights reserved.
Reproduction granted to bonafide vet orgs Repro must include all copyright info and done at no charge to anyone. 
ARE YOU A VETERAN ?   SERVED HONORABLY DURING A TIME OF CRISIS? WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR BIT  NOW WE NEED YOUR HELP We of_________________are members of your community We do our best not only to help in our community but to care for those who served. But we are getting on. We need YOU to pass the baton on. To see our cause continues WE NEED YOU call________________ at ____  _______ for more info   Note most veteran organization by-laws require proof of a record of service usually a DD214,If you served overseas in Korea at any time you are eligible to   join the VFW or if awarded another overseas   campaign ribbon. American Legion by-laws requireservice  during time of conflict but no overseas duty. AMVETS active service at  anytime.

FORGOTTEN REASONS FOR THE AMERICAN 3 DAY HOLIDAYS

    Memorial Day May 30th,  Columbus Day Oct 12th, Lincolns birthday Feb 12th, and Washingtons Birthday, Feb 22nd have all been moved from their original dates which can fall in the middle of the week to a Monday and the reason why we honor these individuals has been forgotten. .

This was due in large part to the wife of President Lyndon Johnson, Lady Bird (Claudia Taylor) Johnson,and The Mondays Holidays act of 1968, which went into effect in 1971 during Nixons tenure.
   She vigorously campaigned for everything including the 3 day holidays. Also the highway beautification program that prohibited signage on fed funded roads,100+ ft building set backs on fed funded roads, state hwys etc (who pays for driveways and snowplowing?) ,to fences around junk yards.
   Good intentions with lots of unintended results including cops named "Chief" getting on the squawker telling residents to get rid of their " junk cars ", as they rolled passed their target in their shinny squad car at 90 mph.The result makes her one of the most influential woman in the last half of the 20th century which most affected the American life style and perhaps longer
    When the 1967 national Monday Holiday act came into force Washingtons Birthday was renamed by Nixon in 1971 as Presidents Day, Some have suggested Columbus Day be renamed Discoverers Day.
   WHEN THESE DATES COME AROUND NOT ONE MAJOR MEDIA NEWSPAPER,TV STATION, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST, WILL BRING THOSE COMEMORATIONS UP ...WHEN WAS THE LAST YOU HEARD OR SAW THEM DO IT ???

MEMORIAL WEEK TRIBUTE.
.ON MAY 30th PLAN A TRADITIONAL TRIBUTE
MY LIGHTED FLAG FLYS AT HALF STAFF UNTIL 3pm

Don't let it become... Daddy whats memorial day ? Shutup kid ! Pass the steak sauce! Memorial Day. May 30th An official US Holiday since 1901, and first observed after the civil war. From a century of visiting graves to a three day picnic in two generations

UPDATES ON MILITARY HARDWARE

Here's links to storys whats happening world wide and in the US with the weapons we use
 China Navy  F-15 Breaking up  New AF Tankers  New B-3 Bomber   Lazer Cannon 1   Laser gun #2  Killer Bee flying drones  F-35 cost 1 $trillion  F-22 phaseout   New F-117 Stealth Fighter

HERE'S A QUESTION FOR THOSE ENROLLED IN VA HEALTH SERVICE
ON THESE HOLIDAYS DOES THE VA HOSPITAL THAT YOU GO TO HAVE A REGISTERED PHARMACIST ON DUTY ??.If not email vets@theususmat.com telling stating which VA hospital doesn't.

VFW post 6863 ritual unit
IN MEMORIAM
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The poem The Honor Guard was inspired by this group (VFW post 6863) and the thousands throughout the US sponsored by a veterans orgainization.
   Photo by VFW IL Dept state photog Vern Humphries
    Vern was a nmember of DesPlaines Valley Memorial VFW post 6863 and passed away May 2006

National and departments are now driving posts and chapters nuts with their 100% drives If you want membership first take care of your comrades.
ABOVE ALL MAKE SURE THAT FAMILY MEMBERS KNOW THAT YOU ARE THERE FOR THEM

FIRST GOVERNMENT SITE

To use first gov site pick out the initials of your state, then go to US Represntative (Congress member) pick out your district and leave a email message

FirstGov -- A-Z Index of U.S. Government Departments and Agencies
Links to other important Vet sites

Other Sites the Veteran Administration ,US & some state Legislators,all vet orgs,media sites links Veteran Issues and the index of all indexes
one more addition to a bunch of sitesThe American Veterans Alliance Service Center - Home Page
TheUSMat veterans pages contd to learn about our neighbor to the north



LET US KNOW....
We're getting hits on this following story anybody following up ?
Hey Andy Rooney of 60 Minutes are you listening? Your Redemption is at hand HELP
Here's one! A ID card you can't use for ID
The Veterans Administration a few years back came out with a wonder identity card.Used mostly at VA hospitals for record keeping to what extent would be another story but its still being issued    On the face of the card alongside a photo of the carrier ,is a bar code. Below the picture ,and in the center is raised lettering for impact plate printing with the carriers name, social security number, and date of birth. And below that in big black block lettering is the same information . On the reverse is a magnetic strip Actually its probably one of the best identity cards ever devised.  This is a card issued by the VA.
     To get it you must appear in person and have your records checked by the Veterans Administration an official government agency .In an effort to get these cards issued  throughout the country,The VA set up shop bringing along its computers to check on the information it was getting and in American Legion, VFW,and AMVETS Posts and chapters all over the United States a drive was made to issue these cards free of charge. And hundreds of thousands were issued.
    Well, take this card to the bank,to any state office, drivers license facility,city bureau where an ID is needed and guess what ? Its not accepted.
    Take it to a social security office, an official unit of the federal system or in most cases even the Post Office and you will  need another form of identification not that one. If you would like to correct this why not print up a copy and send this by snail mail or e mail it to your state and federal representatives .TheUSMat has the links in this page The only way this can be corrected is through legislation ...or in some cases executive order... There are a number of people who rely on this as their only means of photo identification lets make it legal.....

STANDING"Outside da TenT
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....Outside da Tent.

Standing Outside Da Tent is dedicated to uncovering those abuses which can occur in veteran service organizations various posts and chapters by members or officers (cliques) toward a member or group of members which too often go undiciplined by the national organization.

RUMSFELD'S WAR WWII AND THE SHERMAN TANK
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

Many conservative commentators like Sean Hannity began dumping on "major media" for the biased reporting on the Donald Rumsfeld response to a question about vehicle armor while in Bagdad . Did Hannity file the seer on his M1 and squeeze the trigger causing it to fire too quickly ?(An old WWII trick)
    Update Dec 26 2004 ...WWII, Dec 44. The "battle of the bulge" the Sherman M3 tank with its low velocity 75mm gun which was wanted by Gen George Patton because of its "maneuverabilty" and lightness. Later became known as "death traps" as they were combatting the heavily armored German panzer units whose high velocity 88mm shells would penetrate the Shermans armor bounce around inside killing its crew.
   The battle of the bulge was a most trying time for the Americans. As the battle ensued anti biotics were extracted from urine, food and supplies were in desperate short supply. Meals were cut to once every two days.
   The "Red Ball Express" transportation units staffed mainly by blacks were chewed up as they rushed to bring in supplies to the front in their unarmored "duce in a halfs". 2 plus ton trucks used at that time to ferry troops and supplies. These were destroyed by French Vichy partisains and German regulars working behind the lines using improvised mines. Thousands of brave black soldiers unsung heros were were killed. And armored units scrambled to beef up those "death trap Shermans" with hastily aquired "scrap armor"..Needless to say despite those trials and tribulations America won. Had there been the sniping by the media at that time would we have won ?
   Hannity initially accused "the media" of distorting what seems to be the "you go to war with what you have" Rumsfeld seemingly flippant response. NBC nightly news for example showed the entire Rumsfeld response which was a detailed explaination of what was being done to correct the situation. That "what you have" statement came in what could be best explained as a brief fit of frustration at the end of his his explanation attemtping to reassure the troops .ABC also ran the entire statement. I didn't watch CBS so I don't know what they did and until Rather is gone and out the door I won't watch CBS news.
   Where Hannity is correct is what happened when the affilates rebroadcast the news in their late night newscasts which picked up the Rumsfeld out of context comment portraying it as his response and where most of the disapproval polls on Rumsfeld stem from. ..

The Purple Heart,Kerry, those medals,and his book

Once upon a time a long long time ago when our fledgling nation had no medal for valor President Washington instituted The Order Of The Purple Heart.At one time its ranking was equal to that of the later instituted CMH (Congressional Medal of Honor).Which its why its official title is "The Military Order Of" and I believe its the only US medal with that distinction..Besides lying several times about being in Cambodia in 1968 during President Nixon's tenure (he wasn't in office) TMOPH value has become so politicized (Thank you Senator Kerry) that our armed forces should set stricter standards for conditions of award even perhaps assigning the unit historian making recomendations before its awarded as is done for the CMH.

Of the "Swities" complaining against Kerry one should remember that within this group there are 2 type of complainents. Initially when they met in Washington and held their Press Conference (which was ignored by the media) their complaint and charge he was unfit to serve as CNC (commander in chief) because of his public charges and subsequent book against members of his unit and statements which subsequently were proven falacious.

Now we are learning that Viet Nam POW's report Kerry's statements were used to coerce phoney confessions from them by their captors. Apparently he was giving aid and comfort to the enemy for his own political expediency.And that is the basis of their charge

Then a group from the main group of "Swifties" who served directly with Kerry, during his time and after, (despite what he and media sycophants say) decided to question the awarding of his medals.As has been revealed particularly on the 3 Purple Hearts HIS CAMPAIGN ISSUE. Kerry apparently wrote him self up for those commendations. Thus casting aspersions on every Military Order of the Purple Heart recipient.

As far as his book is concerned one wounders what Saigon (Ho Chi Min city) bar he was sitting at while on R and R picking up war storys being fed him by grunts which saw an opportunity to spin a few tales to an unsuspecting swabie ?I'll bet that bar has a Kerry picture on their wall, but for sure one sits in their war museum and as Senator from MA he has blocked certain awards for Viet Namese emigrees.As far as this writer is concerned its been a tragedy and a travesty that this man has reached this far.And the blame can be laid on mainstream medias doorstep. Swiftboats link, to donate click to GameWardens Link on their site please remember to go to back button swiftboats

;UPDATE...The US MAT has been campaigning to get the Illinois Secretary of State to do a better job in their non profit division to shut down posts which are not active One post in question was Sullivan-Woodlawn American Legion Post 757 has been disbanded There will more about this post later after certain facts are checked. The VFW does a far better job than the American Legion in disciplining errant posts.
   The American Legion is still handing out 100% pins and honors for maintaining their numerical strength which means running around contacting drop outs,(2900s) instead of providing an incentive to posts which lower their post membership median age,keep a wake list, and visit vets homes or hospitals, Thats where the 100% effort should go.
    In the later stages of life a veteran may join and devote his or her later years to the service of that organization only to be smeared .Outside the tent is dedicated to reporting those episodes.

    (more on this later)
Comming Soon The Shameful Period
    Have Times have changed ? Will Posts and Chapter members repeat WWII "No war but my war" attitude and be kicking and screaming at the altar at their bringing in new members.

VA, has no teeth!
GI's  Gulf Warriors on active duty 
SAVE All YOUR MEDICAL, DENTAL, and SHOT RECORDS
Here is why Call Ups.(re-treads)...
Medical is restricted to 2 years after you leave.Then you must prove a service connection . All the service connected organizations are fighting VA Health service cutbacks JOIN A POST OR CHAPTER when you return Ruptured Ducks support a resolution by your post or chapter with some teeth in it. Serious pun intended Dentists Your Voice Is Needed On This Issue
    Like too many medical plans the VA health plan is no different. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE DENTAL SERVICE . You can get a hip replacement, a pair of glasses but when it comes to teeth unless your teeth were worked on during your tour of duty your out of luck. There is a crisis in one area of medical care and that is not just nurses it is also in dentistry.Leading colleges and universities which offered a comprehensive education in dentistry are drawing back or no longer do so, and they are the institutions which the poor relied on to get basic care for they offered their students the opportunity to learn their craft and expertise while charging a modest fee to their patients. One of the places vets on limited income should be able to go is to the VA. Yet the VA's policies on dental discourage this while it has tie in's with medical colleges throughout its system and vets benefit from it.Time to include dental services as well
BR>...(NOTE the term " Ruptured Duck" came from a lapel pin given to all discharged WWII and Korean warriors which showed a profile view of the US symbol the bald eagle with one wing seeming to droop in flight.For more on this and a slightly different version of the origin of the term (not a link) punch up ruptured duck in msn or google search engines

Strange facts about WWII that you don't hear in the current one book research ,revisions of history. Like : 
In 1939 which other country invaded Poland ?
(ans Russia)
Which army liberated Prague from the Nazi's and the SS?
(the American)(the Russian)(the German)

ans German
, A Russian  unit sponsored by the German army headed by Gen Vlasov (earlier theusmat editions misspelled the name as Vassilov). For more on this check out Russian volunteers in the German Army during WWIIhttp://www.feldgrau.com/
When Hitler took over the "Sudetenland" Which other  country invaded Czechoslovakia ?( ans Poland)
When Hitler first came to power which country stopped him from invading Austria ?
(ans Italy) 
Where is Gen George Patton buried ?
History Channel had it wrong the narrator actually said Germany (Luxemburg)
WWII Factoids.Charles Lindberg (Lucky Lindy also of peacenik America First fame ) flew "test runs" of the USN Corsair fighter plane in the Pacific and reportedly had downed 2 Misubishi aircraft in the process of "testing". 

WATCH FOR THIS UP COMMING ARTICLE

COMBINED POST HOMES DO THEY WORK ? HOW ARE THEY SET UP ?
The US Mat takes a look at Couglin-Sanford American Legion Post 277 and Wayne Chitwood VFW post 10231 of Necedah Wisconsin who recently "burned their mortgage" to see how its going
Post officers imput wanted
Besides your regular meetings do you have too many meetings to go to? 
Your imput wanted.
Which meetings would you like to see less of ??? PLEASE USE BRAVENET EREPLY PAGE 14 OR LEAVE MESSAGE IN GUESTBOOK PAGE 48

FREE BEER TOMORROW CLUB MEMBERS INCLUDE.
.VFW POST 6863 DESPLAINES VALLEY MEMORIAL CLUB ROOM,SUMMIT IL,(SW side Midway Airport area Chicago), WERTELKAS(.50cent 10oz drafts (now closed ), PATRICK'S TAVERN, MARIANAS PLACE,SOLOFRAS SPORTS BAR AND GRILL,ZIGGYS'S,WI Castle Rock-Petenwell lakes area; VETERAN'S HALL NECEDAH WI a combined post operation American Legion & VFW 50 cent drafts every Tuesday,THE ROADHOUSE NECEDAH WI,SPOT IN THE WOODS ADAMS WI,

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